The Dirty Way Manufacturers are Downgrading Your PC

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1:16 - Is this RAM different?
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Komentar

  1. Richard Cesar

    Richard Cesar5 jam yang lalu

    I wonder if any of this has to do with the Meltdown / Spectre. The "wild peaks" actually representing minor page faults related to mmap and the increased cost of this page fault and sys-calls as the fixes created. Its pretty much standard now for game engines to use this technique to page in geometry and texture data (mapping a file to memory and then letting the system page in/out as necessary). Your difference in game performance could be related to one reading the chunks into preallocated ram, and another using memory mapped files which triggers page faults.

  2. K.Sakthi Balan Bangalore

    K.Sakthi Balan Bangalore6 jam yang lalu

    what if i mix 1rx16 and 1rx8 will i get atleast 15% increase rather having both 1rx16...do answer anyone cheers

  3. Mark Russum

    Mark Russum20 jam yang lalu

    They are going to start sending them test laptops with different ram. And the customers will get the slow ram.

  4. Stan Ried

    Stan Ried21 jam yang lalu

    It's the same with every product. Sell quality to get brand loyalty, then sell less for more. Look at any product at a grocery store.

  5. Brett Combs

    Brett Combs23 jam yang lalu

    Swapped 1Rx16 (2x8GB) to 2Rx8 (2x16GB) in my laptop went from 8608 to 9581 on Time Spy. 5800H & 3050 For reference my 5800x desktop gets around 11K... Dang impressive. 11.3%

  6. whitelisted yt

    whitelisted ytHari Yang lalu

    idk what the heck is wrong wih my laptop it never throttels more than 2.4 ghz in benchmarks for all cores idk y i use a core i5 1135g7 but in singlecore benchmarks i hit 4.2ghz idk whats wrong can someone help me in this i checked if i am thermal throtteling or somethign but i am not

  7. joesei

    joeseiHari Yang lalu

    Will it work if x8 and x16 ram were mixed?

  8. KIRAN M R

    KIRAN M RHari Yang lalu

    Why Linus why? Not only Gamers out there, many content creators too. Please test the Strix G15 in this regard.

  9. Morahman7vnNo2

    Morahman7vnNo2Hari Yang lalu

    This is why I don't really bother with gaming laptops. But I would bother with a Mobile Workstation.

  10. 2506Larry

    2506LarryHari Yang lalu

    The one on the right is MUCH better visually.

  11. God of Hyperdeath

    God of HyperdeathHari Yang lalu

    I just got this laptop from best buy and it has the better x8 RAM sticks in it I guess ASUS listened XD

  12. Bitcoin

    Bitcoin2 hari yang lalu

    who are the people giving thumbs down to this informative video?

  13. Commander Harrison

    Commander Harrison2 hari yang lalu

    Watched this twice, and still no idea which one is the better one.

  14. n0rie9a

    n0rie9a2 hari yang lalu

    10:20 i get that youre going for the smallest price, but using x8 memory chips RAM in that laptop isnt going to significantly lower the 750$ difference compared to the intel/nvidia system, AMD LMG to receive some cease and desist letters in the near future LMAO also, for gaming a DIY PC is the only way to go, always has been, always will be since the dawn of computers; laptops are not meant for that. laptops by definition means compromise, corner-cutting and cost-saving; and i truly believe this is common sense, not enthusiast knowledge. so actually the problem is the ppl buying these, not the manufacturers making them

  15. Christopher Ganda

    Christopher Ganda2 hari yang lalu

    idport.info/award/video/h357kGSGqI-bi2s This guy here has the same spec as mine except Im using G15(Asus G513QM Ryzen 5800H rtx 3060 laptop, 16gb dual channel) and I couldn't get fps more than 200 and his could get like 250-300fps(on valorant). Do you think it is related to this memory issue? since it's like 20-40% fps drop if compared to Noteb's laptop. To be precise, mine only get like 120-200 depends on the map but mostly 130-150. My old gtx 1070 max-q got almost the same fps compared to this rtx 3060(which supposed to be much more powerful than gtx 1070)

  16. Mustafa Manya

    Mustafa Manya2 hari yang lalu

    how do I tell ram bandwidth without opening laptop?

  17. eboe

    eboe2 hari yang lalu

    HW Info tells you if your RAM is 2 ranks or 1 rank. 2 ranks would be 2x8 instead of 1x16. That seems to be what I got when I looked at my model of ram on Crucial - CT16G4SFD8266.M16FE Crucial website gives this - (Specs - DDR4 PC4-21300 • CL=19 • Dual Ranked • x8 based • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR4-2666 • 1.2V • 2048Meg x 64 •) Amazon has in the title DR x8. New Egg says Dual Ranked x8. My Microcenter laptop did not have the info that the memory it came with was, luckily, Dual Rank x 8 as well.

  18. Ingrida Juskaite

    Ingrida Juskaite4 hari yang lalu

    Hi guys, what about ram differences if pc have only intel integrated graphics? Still the same? And do you have an idea what ram is in x15r1 32gb 3070 qhd?

  19. TheFinagle

    TheFinagle4 hari yang lalu

    This is why you do the FULL spec check on any hardware components you purchase (if you CANT get that data dont buy it). Latency and Ghz within you system is so much more important than simple volume unless you plan to fill that volume, but harder for manufacturers to push higher.

  20. Momo

    Momo4 hari yang lalu

    9:11 THE BIG A's HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

  21. Linkophere

    Linkophere5 hari yang lalu

    Does anyone know of 32 gb ram sticks that have the better timing? Do they exist and if so how can I find out before I buy :(? Please help

  22. motbus

    motbus5 hari yang lalu

    there is a catch in the 10:00 explanation. it is mostly correct but there are some important additions: Depending on the software you are running books might be less or more organized, and depending on how much time passes, it may get more or less organized. much because of how it tracks allocations. another point is that the librarian can carry multiple books at once if it happen for them to be near each other. there is one point abstract from the explanation that actually makes a difference. well 2. 1) the cpu has a cache. its like the librarian knows there is a book that gets rented every time, so he does not even put back in the shelf and delivers instantly to the customer. 2) if the librarian brings large batches to his desk to cache, but only small chunks of it is used, he will take back all books and bring another large batch just to use a tiny piece of it. this is partially controlled by the cpu and partially by the operating system. the parameters are usually adaptative, but as the library gets messier, or cleaner the parameters will not be able to set the best choices for our poor librarian. a less important fact is that the librarian does not use the index number of the book when delivering, he has lots of paperwork to do when delivering a book. he knows that the book is at row 6, at 6, shelf number 3. but when registering the information about the book rental, he must look for the isbn and decrease the availability in stock for example for cpus, the addresses still need to go through a MMU layer which will remove the the physical address from applications hands, for several reasons. so every time the librarian needs to fetch a book, it will have lots of extra work. so as he tunes his parameters it should get better. but in our case, the library gets the content changing its properties continuously (at least in the perspective for the librarian) well nobody reads this mumbling. but hope to be interesting. at least for me it is.

  23. HerrNephilim

    HerrNephilim5 hari yang lalu

    Cheap memory was always an issue. It’s not only the frequency 😂

  24. Anon Ymous

    Anon Ymous6 hari yang lalu

    The dedicated-->integrated-->LCD problem has been annoying me since 2014. 🥲

  25. nunya

    nunya6 hari yang lalu

    How is Linus surprised when his own staff put out a video on this 6 months ago in a Tech Quickie. This is not new information, or a "Tech Secret"

  26. Alan Ultra

    Alan Ultra6 hari yang lalu

    Check out ASUS’s website. They’re in full CYA mode! Unbelievable. But I think we should demand an answer to the question, what is the cause of the chip shortage? Is this like that Microsoft commercial where the wine seller starts destroying bottles of wine just to raise prices?

  27. smoking one

    smoking one8 hari yang lalu

    $30 for a water bottle? I'm good my dude.

  28. Maihar Patel

    Maihar Patel9 hari yang lalu

    So in the end which ram do I need and how do I identify if my laptop has bad ram ?

  29. skr_dev

    skr_dev10 hari yang lalu

    regarding graphics MUX switch, I see this to be possible in MSI GS and GP series. found this video: idport.info/award/video/f5t3z358o2yUeIQ

  30. OLD GRANDMAS CUNTS

    OLD GRANDMAS CUNTS10 hari yang lalu

    so basically get 128gb of memory

  31. The Real Wolfspider

    The Real Wolfspider10 hari yang lalu

    Great info.. Thanks.

  32. D3ATHCOM5

    D3ATHCOM511 hari yang lalu

    Either you've got a lazy eye or you've learned to read the script off screen

  33. knorrsoupy

    knorrsoupy11 hari yang lalu

    In case anyone wants to find out about their RAM ranks: Open CMD: Type "wmic memorychip get devicelocator, manufacturer, partnumber" Copy the part number and search, you will directly get the specs from the web. If you don't find it, chances are that the vendor is using 1RX16.

  34. Rider Provider

    Rider Provider12 hari yang lalu

    Manufacturers are fooling the public with such budget customisations.

  35. Rdc dt

    Rdc dt12 hari yang lalu

    You are famous, you can define criteria for specs on computer

  36. Cooe

    Cooe12 hari yang lalu

    Aka the RTX 3080 Mobile & RX 6800M are basically within margin of error as far as GPU performance is concerned. Too bad the latter is being gimped so bad out of the box by the OEMs... -_-

  37. Fady Anwar

    Fady Anwar13 hari yang lalu

    Whats mentioned here drives me to apple m2/m1x soc.

  38. Michael Cuneo

    Michael Cuneo13 hari yang lalu

    This is the first time I've ever seen a video that you've made that is accurate... it's because AMD is shit.

  39. Andre

    Andre13 hari yang lalu

    Soooooo.....what's happened? Did the manufacturers say anything about this?

  40. Aditya Agrawal

    Aditya Agrawal13 hari yang lalu

    King

  41. Dee Six

    Dee Six14 hari yang lalu

    Now Linus makes me doubt my setup and keeps me awake at night, thanks.

  42. r0han52

    r0han5215 hari yang lalu

    He's holding laptop with 1 hand🤣

  43. Some Guy

    Some Guy15 hari yang lalu

    This is harder than it should be to follow because they don't list the RAM configurations on the charts. So when he says faster on the AMD system and slower on the intel system he actually means the better (1Rx8 RAM) is better on both systems. It just so happens the default is 'slower' RAM on AMD and 'fast' RAM on intel. If it was logical at all he would have started the tests with the 'slow' RAM on both systems or put the configuration on the charts and mention it verbally

  44. jerrygonmadlad

    jerrygonmadlad15 hari yang lalu

    *mmmmmmmmm le intro*

  45. WINGSHIGH Aviation

    WINGSHIGH Aviation15 hari yang lalu

    My HP envy I paid $1,200 for can't run two programs at once without freezing up and having to do a battery pull to restart. Complete garbage. Its supposedly has the i7 gen4 processor. My old Toshiba laptop with Old AMD from 2006 was leaps and bounds faster.

  46. Lubomir Ivanov

    Lubomir Ivanov16 hari yang lalu

    I do not buy a PC or component without full specs

  47. wutttt

    wutttt16 hari yang lalu

    I found a way to chech your ram banks without physically checking it. Download aida64 and under then motherboard section go to SPD and there you can see informations about your ram and also its rank and banks(chips).

  48. Amzar Nacht

    Amzar Nacht17 hari yang lalu

    All of those manufacturers are trying to use anything they can find, no matter how shitty the chip manufacturer is they slap it on with utterly no change to the identification of the hardware they slap shit chips on.

  49. Dany Backstone

    Dany Backstone17 hari yang lalu

    *watching my memory modules resting on my desk. Corsair RGB Pro 4x16. ver 3.31 micron D x8. Not as bad as I was afraid of but my IMC doesn't like them anyway. I'm screwed.

  50. IntenseGrid

    IntenseGrid17 hari yang lalu

    I downvoted this one because while it points out an issue, your explanation of the cause of the problem is woefully insufficient. This is a video for Anthony, not Linux. I want the deep down technical explanation of the issues of how these things work and the distinction of each. x8 vs x16 isn't the answer....

  51. Chocolate Milk

    Chocolate Milk17 hari yang lalu

    Nice background picture

  52. H2V PRO Eternal

    H2V PRO Eternal17 hari yang lalu

    Time to keep an eye on ram and ssd specs and performance. These companies trying to pull a fast one on all of us.

  53. ninthjake

    ninthjake17 hari yang lalu

    Decided to upgrade my RAM last month from 16GB to 64GB. Bought some HyperX ram sticks that are rated as 3200MHz but I cannot make them go above 1600MHz no matter what I do. I feel absolutely scammed...

  54. Lou xD

    Lou xD18 hari yang lalu

    seeing old videos of you without the beard feelsbadman xD

  55. Genesys

    Genesys18 hari yang lalu

    What are the CL timings (CAS latency) of each of the modules?

  56. Carlos Andrés Jurado

    Carlos Andrés Jurado19 hari yang lalu

    Im the Lorax and i speak for the "cheap RAM sticks" First: They aren't that cheap. Comparing x8 and x16 Kingston sodimm ram sticks (used Kingston because its webpage made it really easy to compare) and the x16 was actually USD $2 more expensive. Second: The librarian analogy its just wrong. The number of books actually halved because now every book is of size 16. So, why the downgrade on performance? I look for the DRAM chips for both sticks, found both in here static6.arrow.com/aropdfconversion/1e6d3ddd3355bba2ba3460f002b13229c3ff0d6e/ddr4.pdf , and compare them with their Datasheets "KEY FEATURES": x16: www.memory-distributor.com/k4aag165wa-bcwe.html x4 and x8: www.memory-distributor.com/k4aag085wa-bcwe.html There are only two differences, the number of banks and the number of pins. With this on mind, I've got two explanations: - Having less banks (librarians) makes easier to make consecutive calls on the same bank. This is bad as you got to wait an extra tRP(13.75ns). But the impact of this isn't big. Assuming that the probability of this is 1/16 banks on the x8 ones, which i highly doubt. The expected value of these delay would be .85ns for every call, these would be a .85% hit. As the x16 has half the banks, these have an 3.6% expected performance hit. These would translate to a +1.7% latency going from x8 to x16. - The x16 modules are newer, so maybe the BIOS doesn't load the right timings profile. Watching the Jarrod's video i can see this is true. Many "secondary" timings are running from a 30% to a 100% slower than they can. You can check this on the x16 datasheet. This would be much more frustraiting because we know the mobo actually has the right profile because it loads whith x8 module.

  57. Carlos Andrés Jurado

    Carlos Andrés Jurado19 hari yang lalu

    PS: The x16 o x8 its not the density of the DRAM. As you can see in the x4 and x8 Datasheet, you can have the same density with different "chip organization" or "chip data bus".

  58. Ray Turkhan

    Ray Turkhan19 hari yang lalu

    Okay. I am lost. Seriously, the more I 'know' the more confused. I am buying a laptop M15 R5, 5900HX, RTX 3070, with 16GB of ram with intention to sell it and upgrade to what you guys recommend in order to attain a performance boost. Problem is I have no idea what to look for, or rather I can't seem to find the right memory. Can anyone provide links for 32GB of ram? Sorry, I just can't do anymore mind yoga to figure it out.

  59. The_Maker18

    The_Maker1819 hari yang lalu

    Urg this video gave me another bout of anger towards my g5 5587

  60. Dig

    Dig19 hari yang lalu

    So less chips/higher density better performance?

  61. Dig

    Dig19 hari yang lalu

    Thumbs up and subscribed!

  62. GERBONY

    GERBONY19 hari yang lalu

    Soo I just bought the amd laptop. What's the Ram I need to buy? What's the best possible model. I know nothing about internals of computers. Also, what's the most and best ssd upgrade for this? Thanks

  63. MISC BITS

    MISC BITS19 hari yang lalu

    2 years ago we caught HP shipping 512GB Hynix NVME SSDs in desktop systems with worse performance than mechanical sata drives (sub 100MB/s sustained write speeds, 140MB/s read speeds) and disguising it with windows ram caching They then explained it away by claiming that they were "up to 1200MB/s" and 140MB/sec was "up to" They lost a multimillion dollar supply contract as a result

  64. Cooe

    Cooe12 hari yang lalu

    Lol who exactly is "we"? Do you work for a major enterprise IT supply contractor or something?

  65. Baldev Verm1

    Baldev Verm119 hari yang lalu

    Is it ok to give gmail account access to mine.com???

  66. reaxrte

    reaxrte20 hari yang lalu

    All laptop owners, left the lobby to check their RAM. Good job Linus.

  67. Swapnil rathore

    Swapnil rathore20 hari yang lalu

    Sir please make videos on top very high end gaming laptop

  68. Stanley V R Beaudet

    Stanley V R Beaudet20 hari yang lalu

    What is the best kind of Ram should I use in My Asus desktop and how much. Thank you

  69. Clarito resdiano

    Clarito resdiano20 hari yang lalu

    See website motherboard support, open ram qvl

  70. Tom Hubbard

    Tom Hubbard20 hari yang lalu

    So the definitive answer to which should you buy in a laptop, Red or Blue, is Red. Because the speed difference is negligible, assuming the remainder of components are the same, but AMD is more power efficient, so you get better battery life... (Link to the 13/07/22 LTT red v blue laptop comparison)

  71. open curtains

    open curtains20 hari yang lalu

    Hey Linus i need that background asap

  72. Megakoresh

    Megakoresh20 hari yang lalu

    Gaming laptops are just a bad idea. If you wanna game and move your PC easily, build an ITX PC or use an e-gpu with your work laptop (does require intel though, unfortunately).

  73. Jed-Henry Witkowski

    Jed-Henry Witkowski20 hari yang lalu

    There should be a law, mandating that all RAM for the US, Mexican, and Canadian markets must include this in a conspicuous fashion, on the package and the spec sheet.

  74. n.m.e

    n.m.e20 hari yang lalu

    I never know when he's going to Segway into a commercial...

  75. Maunish Dave

    Maunish Dave21 hari yang lalu

    I think companies should start showing benchmarks for what it is advertised for along with their specifications.

  76. zero Motivation

    zero Motivation21 hari yang lalu

    I would have expected the graphic at 13:07 to have OR gates, looks like AND gates.

  77. Jason Goldfarb

    Jason Goldfarb21 hari yang lalu

    Hey Linus You should do a video on Nano One Materials Corp. in Vancouver, Canada. They are revolutionizing the cathode materials process with their "One Pot Process". Look them up!

  78. Dio

    Dio21 hari yang lalu

    Is there any webpage that compare RAM sticks sped performance etc like the ones for GPUs ???

  79. No Body

    No Body22 hari yang lalu

    @Linus... I just went over to Amazon.com just to look for memory. SOOO many chips are coming with covers on them and ZERO labels on those covers. However, even the ones without the covers, the labels are omitting the RAM density data.... I haven't thought about RAM Density in a long long time... Good catch to Jarrod's Tech and a thank you for passing that information along! (Yes, I am old and have forgotten a lot of things--things that we all thought no longer mattered... lol)

  80. JacobMTK

    JacobMTK22 hari yang lalu

    I was coming back to this video , searched on youtube "amd ram single dual rank" and nothing came up, i understand that everything has to be a clickbait title nowadays... but please fix the tags so the video can come up when you actually search something.

  81. Yoshikage EHKOS

    Yoshikage EHKOS22 hari yang lalu

    I had to hunt so much for RAM frequency. With my budget I was looking at a Legion 5 or some kind of Nitro, I went with Lenovo because they actually said it was dual-channel 3200MHz.

  82. newrssn

    newrssn23 hari yang lalu

    Aida64 and HWiNFO MEM specs screenshots would make this video perfect. Unfortunate this show is for "like you are 5".

  83. S K

    S K23 hari yang lalu

    you changed 1 stick only on each... instead of changing 2 on each... why didnt you just crossed both sets instead of just a single stick ?

  84. thanos AIAS

    thanos AIAS23 hari yang lalu

    Very very informative!!! Ty very much!!!

  85. mike garwood

    mike garwood23 hari yang lalu

    This is not the first time RAM memory density has popped up and probably not the last, either.

  86. mike7357

    mike735723 hari yang lalu

    It's not clear what stock, fast, and slow mean

  87. Captain Proxexe

    Captain Proxexe23 hari yang lalu

    If you think about it next gen Consoles take advantage of something very similar to this

  88. Sean Kaiserschmidt

    Sean Kaiserschmidt23 hari yang lalu

    Thank you for this ! This is y i watch!

  89. ABDELKADER MEBARAK

    ABDELKADER MEBARAK23 hari yang lalu

    linus i like your content but those ear rings......NO it makes you look unproper

  90. Delvin William

    Delvin William24 hari yang lalu

    thanks for covering this topic linus. I kind of mad when I buy AIO or laptop, and I can't actively switch to the dedicated graphic card as I wish. now I can expect to get what I want by researching which laptop or AIO that had mux switch.

  91. Times

    Times24 hari yang lalu

    Linus talks about computer parts the same wat Steve Irwin talked about crocodiles.

  92. Raul fuentes

    Raul fuentes24 hari yang lalu

    After i watched this video I opened my brand new zephyrus 14 with ryzen 9 and rtx 3060 just to find out that all of it is true, it came with a x16 ram and also with an slow ssd nvme compared to high performance components, it is not ok to add cheaper components to a really expensive high performance laptop. Asus, are you going to fix this or should i buy extra components to get my laptop to perform at its max capacity.

  93. Clarito resdiano

    Clarito resdiano20 hari yang lalu

    1. All newest ASUS products started using x16. 2. The problem changing ram stick is compatibility (some ram doesn't work well). 3. The next SSD NVME problem is heat, too much heat could make SSD Silicon die started dying from time to time, I Admit that when someone who's using RTX 3080/3090 series, their OS data starting to be corrupted.

  94. Sandros94

    Sandros9424 hari yang lalu

    It has been like this for at least the past 3 years (when I started noticing it)

  95. david zweiban

    david zweiban24 hari yang lalu

    I'll bet the manufacturers have a secret database of all these machines with ALL the parameters that count towards performance, which like the secret menu of ingredients at P.F. Changs, we will probably never see.

  96. Chloe Lin

    Chloe Lin24 hari yang lalu

    what does this mean i dont get it

  97. Keanu Chin

    Keanu Chin24 hari yang lalu

    so for like a ddr4 laptop like my poo Aspire A515-43 what ram, would be best recommended for purchase

  98. Clarito resdiano

    Clarito resdiano20 hari yang lalu

    Ask your CS manufacturer to see which ram is compatible with your machine.

  99. joshuagood

    joshuagood25 hari yang lalu

    I know what you mean I bought a 8GB form corsair and and it was single channel on one side. and it was definitely slow than the original double channel that I had on my laptop. I got in contact with them and they said there's no difference. I knew they was lying because there was a difference in the frame rate in games.

  100. Clarito resdiano

    Clarito resdiano20 hari yang lalu

    they just playing dumb.

  101. Blinded Bliss - Diana

    Blinded Bliss - Diana25 hari yang lalu

    Will this affect my recent Xbox X and PS5 purchases?

  102. Mister Yoda

    Mister Yoda25 hari yang lalu

    I have a DDR3 motherboard and an old amd fx beast processor, it's actually holding out better than I hoped for

  103. Ben Bouissieres Music

    Ben Bouissieres Music25 hari yang lalu

    Wow! It's nice to see the LTT team doing this type of investigation! Sometimes I wonder if they've chosen quantity over quality.

  104. BPorter Music

    BPorter Music25 hari yang lalu

    '1Rx8 vs 1Rx16' - basically these affect whether you end up with dual rank from using 2 modules or not. I learned about these because Crucial mix single and dual rank modules into the same product line - the current Ballistix 3600 can come with either dual rank Micron E die, or single rank Micron B die, and there is no way to tell which one you will get until you open them and read the sticker on the modues for Rx8 or Rx16. Getting single rank means up to 30% performance loss in some games at 1080p, but not as drastic at 4K.

  105. BPorter Music

    BPorter Music25 hari yang lalu

    My last pre built as a teenager was something that sounded great on paper and had the best specs - the highest end Athlon 1400 and Geforce 3 graphics card, meaning it should have been the highest end rig back then. Except the manufacturer did the following three things: 1) They didnt remove the plastic off the bottom of the CPU cooler. It was BSODing from overheating in less than 5 mins into windows. I was still a kid so my brother diagnosed it with temp monitoring software, and when he told the manufacturer about it they were literally like 'How can you tell its overheating'. Initially he didn't open the PC or anything as that would void the warrantly, we sent it back, and after waiting weeks it came back with an extra case fan installed, but was still overheating, so then my brother tried to reinstall the CPU cooler and found the 'remove before installation' tab still stuck to the bottom of the cooler. 2) While it had a great CPU and GPU for the time, they gimped it with only 256 mb of the slowest ram, and my family simply later got me a mismatched extra 512 mb stick for 768 mb total so I had to make do with slow mismatched ram. 3) In terms of performance, most significantly I did not know about FSB (front side bus) back then. Later learning about it, I found at that these AMD Athlon CPUs wanted 100Mhz+ FSB for best performance. My motherboard had been a 66mhz FSB board that whole time which basically crippled the CPU performance.

  106. Eulogy

    Eulogy25 hari yang lalu

    Man, y'all have been straight up tearing a strip off manufacturers this past week.